Comments on: “Prayer” by Keetje Kuipers http://www.rattle.com/poetry/2008/07/prayer-by-keetje-kuipers/ Poetry for Everyone. Tue, 22 May 2012 20:06:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Goolotams http://www.rattle.com/poetry/2008/07/prayer-by-keetje-kuipers/#comment-826 Goolotams Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:09:26 +0000 http://www.rattle.com/blog/?p=33#comment-826 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, áûëî î÷åíüïðèêîëüíî âàñ ïî÷èòàòü. òîëüêî âîò îäíîïëîõî Ñïàìåðû äîñòàëè, ó ìåíÿ ó ñàìîãî åñòü ñòðàíè÷êà òàê è íà ïðåìîäåðàöèþ ñòàâèòü âñå ïîñòûíå äåëî, à âîò êàïò÷ó íèêàê íå ìîãó óñòàíîâèòü, íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ... Çäðàâñòâóéòå, áûëî î÷åíüïðèêîëüíî âàñ ïî÷èòàòü. òîëüêî âîò îäíîïëîõî Ñïàìåðû äîñòàëè, ó ìåíÿ ó ñàìîãî åñòü ñòðàíè÷êà òàê è íà ïðåìîäåðàöèþ ñòàâèòü âñå ïîñòûíå äåëî, à âîò êàïò÷ó íèêàê íå ìîãó óñòàíîâèòü, íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ…

]]> By: Amy http://www.rattle.com/poetry/2008/07/prayer-by-keetje-kuipers/#comment-825 Amy Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:26:21 +0000 http://www.rattle.com/blog/?p=33#comment-825 Anoth R. Poet ~ There's a good article by Phyllis Trible called "Depatriarchalizing in Biblical Interpretation" you might find worthwhile. Feminist biblical hermeneutics is actually one of my areas of academic focus, so I know something about this. Your point is well made. I supposed I hadn't automatically considered God as male or female. The author is drawing a parallel with a maternal image, so the image for me was similarly maternal. One might suggest that an automatical impression of "God" as male comes from androcentric enculturation, rather than the author's intent. Beware the pitfalls of eisegesis :) How's that for complicated? At any rate, I think the statement made here is that a faith relationship remains even when one has many reasons to stop believing. For God to "begin the story again from the place you both left off," at least for me, implies that the Deity is always available when one chooses to approach it in a fresh way, rather than with preconceived notions or old animosity. I suspect Thomas Carlyle would have liked this poem very much. Anoth R. Poet ~ There’s a good article by Phyllis Trible called “Depatriarchalizing in Biblical Interpretation” you might find worthwhile. Feminist biblical hermeneutics is actually one of my areas of academic focus, so I know something about this. Your point is well made. I supposed I hadn’t automatically considered God as male or female. The author is drawing a parallel with a maternal image, so the image for me was similarly maternal. One might suggest that an automatical impression of “God” as male comes from androcentric enculturation, rather than the author’s intent. Beware the pitfalls of eisegesis :) How’s that for complicated? At any rate, I think the statement made here is that a faith relationship remains even when one has many reasons to stop believing. For God to “begin the story again from the place you both left off,” at least for me, implies that the Deity is always available when one chooses to approach it in a fresh way, rather than with preconceived notions or old animosity. I suspect Thomas Carlyle would have liked this poem very much.

]]> By: Anoth R. Poet http://www.rattle.com/poetry/2008/07/prayer-by-keetje-kuipers/#comment-824 Anoth R. Poet Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:20:16 +0000 http://www.rattle.com/blog/?p=33#comment-824 "Perhaps as a child..." Or perhaps not - perhaps you didn't have an experience like this as a child with a parent. So, I can admire the beautiful writing ("until your eyes became magnets for your shuttering lids" - phenomenal!) and yet at the same time, feel a distance from the experience described in the poem...and then the little nagging sense that the references to "Charlotte's Web" and "Little House on the Prairie," might spring open upon rereading this poem again a few months from now, and completely up-end the interpretation I have of it now...and then also, at the end, I wonder, how would the poem be different if the poet had chosen to use "Goddess" instead of "God" - I know, I've seen the bumper stickers (God Is Coming And Is She Pissed), "god" can be female, male, both, neither - just had a complicated reaction to this admittedly beautiful poem - I don't deny it! :) “Perhaps as a child…”

Or perhaps not – perhaps you didn’t have an experience like this as a child with a parent. So, I can admire the beautiful writing (“until your eyes became magnets for your shuttering
lids” – phenomenal!) and yet at the same time, feel a distance from the experience described in the poem…and then the little nagging sense that the references to “Charlotte’s Web” and “Little House on the Prairie,” might spring open upon rereading this poem again a few months from now, and completely up-end the interpretation I have of it now…and then also, at the end, I wonder, how would the poem be different if the poet had chosen to use “Goddess” instead of “God” – I know, I’ve seen the bumper stickers (God Is Coming And Is She Pissed), “god” can be female, male, both, neither – just had a complicated reaction to this admittedly beautiful poem – I don’t deny it! :)

]]> By: Liz http://www.rattle.com/poetry/2008/07/prayer-by-keetje-kuipers/#comment-823 Liz Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:14:17 +0000 http://www.rattle.com/blog/?p=33#comment-823 Beautiful poem - loved where it took me and the quiet confidence within it. Thanks Beautiful poem – loved where it took me and the quiet confidence within it.
Thanks

]]> By: Amy http://www.rattle.com/poetry/2008/07/prayer-by-keetje-kuipers/#comment-822 Amy Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:34:02 +0000 http://www.rattle.com/blog/?p=33#comment-822 This is a beautiful poem, both in terms of imagery and the profound idea it conveys. Heartbreaking and made me miss being read to. This is a beautiful poem, both in terms of imagery and the profound idea it conveys. Heartbreaking and made me miss being read to.

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